Just what kind of mess we're in

Charles Gibson on ABCNews had a short roundtable tonight about Iraq with three very rational centrists, Fareed Zakaria, Richard Haass, and Jack Keane. This is cut down from what was broadcast, but it gives a very good idea of just how deep in the quagmire we are.

(By the way, I'm pleased to see rational, knowlegable analysts get airtime, but why weren't they allowed on six months ago? An intelligent discourse might have made a difference then.)