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Sunday, January 27, 2008

But the Clinton's aren't playing the race card......

The Clinton spin out of South Carolina,
"They are getting votes, to be sure, because of their race or gender. That's why people tell me Hillary doesn't have a chance of winning here," the former president said at one stop as he campaigned for his wife, strongly suggesting that blacks would not support a white alternative to Obama.

Clinton campaign strategists denied any intentional effort to stir the racial debate. But they said they believe the fallout has had the effect of branding Obama as "the black candidate," a tag that could hurt him outside the South.

Did you get that? The Clinton's aren't playing the race card, but the former President repeated claims that his white wife had no chance of winning in SC, and the Clinton campaign is trumpeting to anyone who will listen that Obama is "the black candidate."

And, of course, the from nowhere reference to Jesse Jackson. (video)

I'm sorry, I know this is going to generate argument, but after all the focus on race in the past ten days, you have to figure that the spin shop pushing "black candidate" is part of the plan and that Bill Clinton is politically savvy enough that his comments can't really be called unintentional.

(Later: When talking about Obama's lower polling among whites, why is no one pointing out that we're talking about South Carolina, a state not without a racial history? Obama polled just fine among whites in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada.

Of course, if the Clinton plan is just to take away the value and momentum of Obama's victory, you could argue that it's working. Look what I'm writing about.)

Later Still: The panel on Meet the Press savaged the Clinton's for all this.

10 Comments:

  • Questions from a pondering mind: In this year, with this candidate, does race baiting like this help Obama more than it hurts him? Does it rally the "black" vote more than it dampens the "white" vote? Does it hurt Hillary more because it's coming from Bill; the perception being Bill uses the black community when it serves his purposes, then backhands the community when they don't go his way?

    Bill is a southern boy, born and bred. As he points out, he's no newcomer to the game of politics. He knows what buttons to push including all the coded (and not so coded) race buttons.

    I think the media are on the verge of casting the Clintons as throwbacks to another time, out of step with American vox populi. The ugly is starting to pile up... Like watching a NASCAR race and getting a little excited hoping for a car wreck, the darker side of me is hoping from a spectacular flame out by Bill and Hillary... Like Bill saying f-you to a gaggle of reporters. Or dropping the N-bomb on a live mic thought to be off.

    No. That's going too far. I don't wish for that last one.

    By Blogger -epm, at 10:30 PM  

  • Well, isn't Bill just noting the presence of the elephant in the room? They got thumped in South Carolina because 80% of the African-American voters went for Obama. Obviously they saw it coming, and obviously they want to explain it away. (Hence the Jesse Jackson remark--the subtext there being "black candidates do well here." Which is hard to argue with, given the results.)

    I really think the Obama camp has bought into the paranoid Republican mythology about Hilary, whereby every little nuance (the misty eyes, the LBJ reference, now this) is proof of her demonic nature. I find Obama's Reagan remarks far more disturbing than anything uttered by Hilary or Bill.

    (And no, I'm not voting for Hilary.)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:18 AM  

  • EPM, it hurts Obama.It does. They wouldn't be still doing it if it wasn't working. This has been going on long enough for them to poll it.

    And, I don't see the Clinton's being cast as the old Dem party by the media. That's the Obama goal, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see the media going too far along that route.

    For the most part, the media has a core presentation of the Clinton's that's not going to change.

    The weird thing is, part of that presentation is the contrast question where they'll pose ideas as questions "Are the Clinton's the Old Democratic party?", but in the end, they'll keep coming back to the same portrayal, "slick willie" parsing language and calculating every word, building a construct of electoral demographic groups.

    Not that I agree with that portrayal but that seems to be the unshakable media core.

    ...

    Tom, Maybe, and the Clinton's are in a weird spot on this one, but after the big blow up just a week ago, they have to be conscious that they might face charges in this area and by the fact that they continue to do it, "the black candidate" chosen and pressed as the post primary spin, and Bill Clinton bring up Jesse Jackson out of nothing, you have to figure they mean it.

    I just don't believe they're accidentally spilling into all these, and after the earlier focus/discussion, I have to figure they now mean it.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 6:46 AM  

  • An I changed the last line of the post to reflect that last sentiment.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 6:47 AM  

  • You won't get an argument from me on this. And you're right - Bill certainly is savvy enough to know exactly what impact his racial insinuations have.

    I found this (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/01/bubba-obama-is.html) on an ABC blog. It's a short post about the Jesse Jackson insinuation. What struck me is one of the comments:

    "has anyone been to/seen any place where blacks have rule?......they are HELLHOLES.....a vote for obama is a vote for living in a national detroit or newark."

    The comment has apparently been removed (don't know why - there are worse comments like this that are still there). But I had copied it to my blog.

    This is the mentality that the Clintons are deliberately playing to, motivating them to get out and vote against Obama. It's disgusting.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:10 AM  

  • I don't think anybody's saying the Clinton's are racist in any way because I think it's pretty clear they're not, but as you point out, playing to a racist undercurrent is about the worst of politics.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 11:39 AM  

  • A lot of this comes from the perception that the Clintons are master tacticians, calculating every word and gesture to manipulate the electorate according to some intricate master plan. But if so... why did they get thumped so badly in SC? I suppose the rejoinder would be that they had written off SC and were just setting themselves up to do better in other southern states with lower percentages of black Democratic voters, but if so... why not hold back on the "race baiting" 'til after SC? Either the supposed race-baiting was not intentional, or it failed badly. So much for the Clintons' shrewdness.

    My belief is that it's just difficult to campaign 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, against an African-American candidate without occasionally letting slip some allusion to the fact that he IS African-American, and that race affects the way people vote. (Horrors! Who knew?)

    Let's just ask about this furor, cui bono? The answer is Obama. Every time the Clinton camp makes the slightest reference to race, the Obama camp is all over it, portraying the Clintons as, if not racist, then ruthless and unclean.
    This, to my mind, is at least as cynical and manipulative as anything the Clintons have done.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:02 PM  

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    By Blogger mikevotes, at 3:55 PM  

  • I go somewhat with your rejoinder although I think it has less to do with black voters in southern states as it does with the bigger Feb 5 contests.I think it was about diminishing the momentum and taking Obama off message.

    ....

    And, I'm sorry, I don't buy "tired" when it's a scripted comment out of the strategy part of the campaign, a comment that was discussed and decided on and then delivered to the AP in a call.

    Maybe some of the early comments like Shaheen might be explained as mistakes by surrogates, but when after all the furor, the campaign spin room comes out with "black candidate," that's not a mistake. That's intention.

    C'mon now. It's pretty indisputable that some of this was intentional.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 3:57 PM  

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